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Lori: How exactly is Karma measured? When a person is planning his or her life, I would like to know more about the process. I remember once you were talking about a karmic vector and you asked, “how much karma are you taking with you? “ How is that all measured? Energetically?
Hilarion: Oh, no. Energetically is such a vague term and vector is so specific as it refers to direction and magnitude. Karmic magnitude can be computed based on a rather complex formula that takes into account a variety of factors. Most importantly having to do with a simple karmic scale which is generally agreed upon by most individuals but can be fine-tuned to your individual consciousness if for instance you grew up in a society quite different from Western society you might have a whole different value on human life or certain specific experiences.
For instance, in African societies, various physical body mutilations are not considered nearly as detrimental or problematic as in Western societies. But, from these a degree of karmic interaction is easy to determine based upon the experiences noted in previous individuals over past lives and based upon the emotional response, specifically how much larger the emotional body jumps when these energetics are applied and the attributes that relate to the ways in which these energetics then are felt by others. How much of this is a response? You can measure energy itseklf but this is far more difficult, it is more a measurement of responses because in any given society it is your response to the responses, that more than anything else determines both magnitude and direction how that energetic is going to be held within your consciousness.
At the same time as this an obvious sort of thing begins to appear. Because you are the ultimate governor of this, not the Lords of Karma, not an external. You are the one who is the actual determiner of all of the factors that could be utilized or you could say the constant to multiply these various energetics by. It is also then entirely within your purview to be able to release all of it. That is to truly, totally and completely love and forgive yourself at every level of your being by which as a result all karma dissolves. This is especially difficult to understand within the collective consciousness. That is so many around you who hold in their own consciousness that this is the way it should be, this is the way it has to be, this is the way it has always been, etc.
All of that continues to manifest the seeming rigidity of these aspects and makes it very easy to calculate. The formula can be utilized in order to give a number. The number typically will be a complex number meaning that it will have aspects that definitely relate to magnitude, direction, and that which is multiplied by the square root minus one. As in all solutions to Maxwell's equations, this giving the result as relating to the aetheric density. The aetheric space is that which is easily mathematically understood and that which we have spoken of at various times with those who have interest in such matters in the past.
Since the solutions to Maxwell's equations which are partial differential equations that are insoluble on their own, but the mathematical solutions are directly relevant to everyday three-dimensional existence. The solutions will yield two terms. One imaginary, that is multiplied by the square root minus 1. and the other the physical term. In all aspects by which these equations are utilized which are the underpinnings of all current day non-quantum physics. All of the secondary term the imaginary term is discarded.
This is unfortunate because it is the aetheric term. This is the compounding aspect that makes it difficult for an individual incarnate to understand mathematically their own karma. You do not recognize the nonphysical attribute. The aspect that could be seen as aetheric, or that which relates to something that is beyond your current day consciousness but it is there nonetheless.
This is what sometimes makes all of those aspects difficult for individuals to understand. When they just know that something that has occurred perhaps in the news as it seems so deeply unfair because it has been harmful to a child, or it has created some terrible disturbance that is problematic for so many, that this in itself is clearly karmic. But, the nature of the karma is not easily understood. This is indeed that which often is a powerful spur to individuals remembering or understanding or working upon this in themselves. Because, when you take it back to yourself, you’re coming back to the factor that you do have control over.
The coefficient of those terms that multiplies to show how much they are in your own life, your own personal understanding is that which is determined by you.
It is true that part of this is determined by your experience, hence your karma, the sense it is a sort of loop. But the loop is easily broken when you ask the simple question,” How lovable are you?” This is a profound and difficult question to ask. It is so simple. You cannot determine this in magnitude or karma.
You cannot determine it in magnitude from your experiences in the world. It is determined from something far beyond this, something to do with your essence, something to do with the example that is given to you by others who have raised you and loved you. But most importantly, that which is, that which you know is your essence as it is manifested, God's reality here on earth, the universes manifestation as you, whatever you want to call that energy.
Because this indicates to you how you have chosen to limit the love that you have available to dissolve your own karma. How lovable are you? Leads you down the path to the manifestation of that energy that can indeed dissolve all kinds of karma, all different aspects of this and most importantly no matter how much it is, the lovability is so much greater. This is even beyond measurement but this has been attempted. Quantification of this and the ability to work with love is quantifiable certainly has been an interesting process. Over and over it is by orders of magnitude that the potential love available is that which so far powerfully overwhelms the relatively miniscule amounts of karma by comparison.
So you see that there are different ways to answer your question. Those that can relate perhaps logically or mathematical, but of little value. Or that which is practical which it relates to love.
Lori: Are you able to give me a number?
The number is a little tricky because relative to what you can relate to. But, compared to other people yes, you could say you have less than others but certainly more than many. So, you could say that if you're going to look at other people you are going to see that you have a few issues that have been very difficult that keep showing up, you might call them chronic karma and those are fascinating to examine and look at for one purpose: that you get it and drop that entirely. By comparing to other people all you can do is fix yourself within that larger context.
You are more likely able to balance it but when you look inside yourself you can answer the question how many lifetimes is it going to take? How many lifetimes is it going to take to dissolve it? It doesn't even take lifetimes it only takes a moment. By holding it in this larger context of comparison you fall potentially into a trap in which you are only making this larger lesson of it, further away, harder to understand.
When you help others understand their karma and dissolve it by love. When you ask questions such as how lovable are you really? At your core? At the nature of who you are? When you ask “who or what is experiencing this moment now? “ You take steps in the direction that indicate the balancing method but this is not new. Not in terms of our channelling, what you heard recently, but going way back. What would have ever motivated you to use the law of Karma? After all the law of karma is simply cause-and-effect. When something happens it causes this, and that causes that and so on and so forth.
It works very well when you want to build a machine or have an effect on your environment so you might be more comfortable or whatever. But, when you decide for your souls evolution, for learning, for growth, for making you a better person, or making you a better soul that you are going to use this law. What do you think would take you to such a place? Do you think you want to do this to be more efficient when it takes so many lifetimes and you can get stuck so easily? Really then, it is not about that at all.
It is about something else entirely which is very difficult to hear. It comes about because you tried awfully hard and you just couldn't get it any other way. So you figure the slow way was better than no way at all. You planted the seed and it is right there in the law of karma itself that once you realize what was happening you could then step back from it and do it a different way. You could do it with love. It really is that simple once you understand it and this could be a good reason in addition to the other things we said to perhaps the next time you need a lesson, bringing it to yourself a different way or forgiving yourself for doing it in that way or being fed up with it and saying finally once and for all this is too slow.
Lori: what if I don't clear it in this life?
Hilarion: if you don't clear any karma then you will bring in some of these lessons about love and so on. Then, in the next life you will bring in both of that. You'll be working on the karma but you'll also be working even more with connecting with people who will remind you about love and energies that will teach you about this in other ways so that you'll keep working with it.
But it's different from karma. There isn't this karma about love it is rather an invitation, a place of playfulness, a place where you get to choose.
