Hilarion: You never do.
Lori: That’s the best answer!
Hilarion: Yet, you do. Why do you think that is?
Lori: To experience more, to grow, evolve, to help, to eat more chocolate.
Hilarion: Not usually. That is indeed the case as you evolve and begin to recognize for instance the reality of past lives. But, no. It is an addiction. Plain and simple. You get addicted to the life here, the experiences here. Be it the simple things that are often a powerful adjunct for early incarnated souls. Such as those moving from the animal kingdom into the human kingdom. As you might see with individuals of very low intelligence or significant mental difficulties. Then, they are remembering and addicted to such things as simple smells and tastes, the simplest experiences of a hug or walking in a beautiful place.
But, as you go on you begin to recognize the deeper meaning of these and seek out challenges for yourself. For instance, if you ever felt challenged at learning something, how simple and easy it would be to learn and integrate all of that when you are non-physical. Yet, the challenge itself becomes addicting and it is that which you seek out in order to prove to yourself you can do it. It is something that has meaning for you and so on. This then adds up the addictions to that which is psycho spiritual. Proving your worthiness, recognizing your willingness to let go of guilt, manifest energies of a positive and healing nature in which you know them deep in your soul.
From the larger perspective of your evolutionary orienter, of your guides and helpers, even of your soul as is it examining and looking at all of your past lives, this is ludicrous. It is a way in which you are trying to prove something intrinsic to your nature. Yet, all of these aspects as you manifest them for yourself have within them a certain process that is within itself the desired goal, the addiction, the thing that you long for and work with.
After all, there are those who do relate very consciously and easily to the various positive and loving experiences you might have here such as an embrace. But, when you understand it at its core you do not need the physical action of this. But, on the other side you find yourself longing for it. That in itself is a gentle, simple reminder. An indicator of what is actually happening here. It’s as if the real key to ending all of your lifetimes is consciousness but not in the way the gurus and disciples of the gurus who eventually attain enlightenment, etc. have spoken about.
Rather, it’s the personal understanding of your responsibility in all aspects of this. The way in which you have decided not to experience the full measure of the embrace. The way in which you have allowed that experience of that which is physical to in some way, in some small component or large, be denied. Be that which is kept from your being.
What is an addiction after all? It is often around this issue in which denial and that which is somehow kept from you are an intrinsic part of the desire. This is also the underlying basis by which the cessation of lifetimes occurs and this has been discussed extensively by Buddha and many of the others who have come to understand this from a spiritual perspective, that it is desire. You cannot make yourself desireless since that is a desire in of itself. Instead, it is the way in which you accept at the very core of it is what that desire does. Another way of getting at that of course, is that powerful question what do you want more than ___? What do you want more than that? When you apply that to the idea that you would end your lifetimes, that you would end the cycle of birth and rebirth that there would be some desire within that for you as an indicator to apply that.
What do you want more than the ending of the karmic wheel? This is a very powerful question and not an easy one for most people to answer. But, it is right there with the solution, with the simultaneous manifestation of the desireless karmic wheel and your opportunity to choose. What frequently occurs once you reach the place where the karma is dissolved, typically through love, through the various ways in which you have forgiven and assisted and you have worked through this issue in which there is no longer any desire. The sense that there is within your own consciousness this powerful connectivity, this deep understanding of oneness, this ability to work with these energies that you've seen from afar that the other ones as enlightened and so on manifest, is showing up in you.
Then, typically you choose one more lifetime. What will typically happen there is you will choose it based upon only one thing. It is very difficult to describe it as each individual has their own perspective on it. But, it’s something like, as a little child would say, “because,” or it's about having fun, choosing it simply for its own self, not out of karmic balancing, not out of enlightenment, not out of a desire to be any different than what you are, not have a desire at all.
That lifetime sometimes is very short, sometimes very long. But, as you experience it you experience all of it very differently. That sort of thing is very typical these days and the reason for this is underlying all of this at the very basic level of how it all started in the first place; that has to do with something about being helpful, about being beneficial. Could you deny the powerful helpful energy that would be available at the physical level if you were physical? Or might you allow that somehow in the world?
These are very difficult questions for the soul but contemplating them has value because it reminds you where to look. To cease desire, to understand the karmic wheel in a more direct way and simply to have fun. To see that the very characteristic that might give you the opportunity for this to be your last life is something you can manifest right here, right now. Maybe not in a continuous basis but more and more as greater and greater cessation of desire and karma take place. Does this make sense?
Lori: Yes. It does.
Hilarion: It’s tricky of course, to understand and then follow this from the limited perspective of being in a physical body. But, there is a place here that you can go to that simply “is,” and that is a very beautiful place to understand and contemplate this question.
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Tuesday, March 8, 2016
Karma of Nations
**This information was recorded July 12, 1989 during a Q&A of a public chanelling.
Q. Was there a master plan as far as the karma of the different countries of the world to somehow evolve the human species? How each country has its attitudes and where are we now with the United States? China? Holland? Europe? How is it working?
Hilarion: in the dawn of Western civilization, the sense that there would be variation, that there would be many opportunities given, many different directions and so on as was then occurring in the Grecian times. Then, to be translated and inspired during the Middle Ages and then expanded during the Renaissance and then brought into various ways of formation in the world. Then in that sense at the energetic level, there was a master plan. This is to be a variation. There is to be energy here and there and in all these places.
Then, what is also evolving with this is the sense of truth about the entire experience. So, when you look at a country such as the United States and you see all the positive things that they have done for the world, the way in which many individuals who are otherwise oppressed or in places of difficulty were able to grow here, have their families here and so on and so forth good karma has been done.
But, the reverse is also true. Individuals are also looking at the tortures and difficulties inflicted upon the native civilization here in the United States then pushed out because of the nature of Western civilization itself as it grew in the United States and because of the way people did not understand other people. So then, you will see that within each great seed there is also a seed of negativity. A seed that is waiting to be developed or understood or released and each time a country does that, then there is greatness. There is a great new expansion and it is possible that the next country to do this will also have tremendous expansion into such as outer space. This may even occur in the next thirty years in Japan. Because there in an understanding of societal interaction now, a seed is being planted that is to be shared with the world. This may then allow the shackles of negative karma from the past to be released so that the Japanese may then move to life instead of death which has occurred so often in so many ways in World War II.
So, it is then that there are individual incidences that occur along the development of each individual country. It is not a master plan in the sense that it is to be then said that this person will go hither and that person will go yon. It is instead that by gradual development countries with particular attributes and attitudes will be developed and an individual that needs to experience those particular attitudes and attributes; those particular ways in which there are certain benefits or difficulties will then by the nature of what they need to experience in their own lives will incarnate in those countries.
Thus, they will learn that particular attribute or experience by nature of being there. There is enhanced probability that they will get it. But, what if they don't get it? Then they will return there until they do. So, you often have examples of individuals who have incarnated many times in a given country. But you will also notice that many individuals who have a sense of past lives as being multicultural and extending into many countries have indeed learned those lessons from those individual countries and from those individual experiences.
Many times those lessons are not very direct. They are not experiences as if what I need to know about living in Japan is about harmony with the group. But, maybe just a tendency in that direction and the main thing was to be learned such as acupuncture or some martial art or something like that. Then the life in the United States, then the life in Holland, so that by each way something was learned about some particular aspect of being. So it is more to the individual that there is great importance but you will see then that there is often a need amongst entire humanity for a concentration of effort in a particular area for a limited amount of time. When this tremendous concentration is necessary a large number of souls from perhaps differing countries or backgrounds from other lives or that same country incarnate in that country to get that lesson.
So, the tremendous explosion of energy in China is now developing. Those who have fought democracy in the past, those who have fought it in themselves in the way of sharing of life with others, of appreciating what they have done and seeing how they can assist others, in their ways of sharing power and knowingness have incarnated in this country to deal with these lessons from many sides. Those who have oppressed it in others and atoned, those who wish to balance it, those who wish to continue the oppression, all of these are there to work out these lessons. By the population alone you know there must be an awful lot of beings who have to work out that lesson. Is this not the case then, overall?
You will see that historically China has maintained these places of great power over others from the feudal system, from the various lords, from the emperors, from all of these ways of power, concentration and energy perhaps seen as more important than human life and so then the general direction has taken place. But, this tendency for individuals to need to work out this attitude with regards to power over others and the individual's voice being important that is a theme that has been shared throughout civilization for the last 5000 years in so many different ways. Those who have not learned that lesson then are incarnating and coming together to really understand it in China.
So, it is then with each country there are certain specific tendencies, certain ways of greater freedom or helping others or sharing of these things that are then tendencies and continuing sorts of things in each of the different countries. As you look at them for yourself you may come to these ideas. We mention them a little bit in the book “Nations.” But, there are so many more aspects to this. Many of them are very positive. In every country in the world something wonderful to contribute that would be nourished and assisted as well in the coming times. We would ask you then as one who knows a bit about Holland in your own personal way to answer this question for yourself before we would interpose our vision of it. But, you would also see that the freedoms that are often encouraged in other people by those who have lived in this place are those things that are often deep-seated and assist many others. So then, does this answer your question?
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Friday, January 8, 2016
Understanding the Karma of Climate Change
Hilarion: One of your questions relates very much to climate change, is it too late for planet Earth? Can things be reversed? At the same time do you see how love figures into that? So much of the difficulties on your planet about agreement amongst countries, has so much to do with the opposite; the competition, the opportunity to do better than, the manifestation of fear about this. All of the energies that could be shifted so much by love for your planet, love for each other, love for the generations that will come after you and in many ways love for who you are as you evolve to the point that you can make changes to your planet.
So, in a way the pressing issue is about asking the right questions and very much so with relationship to making love practical. The guides and helpers have a nearly singular focus about this. Because they recognize that the choice towards love must always be that which is up to you. It cannot be that which one is forced into that one way or the other because that's only going to generate more karma.
At the same time it can be asked,” What more than anything else retards your progress that the guides and helpers can influence? What aspects of consciousness can be that which is standing in your way? " Over and over what you see on that is the influence of cause and effect. The ripple effect that is set into motion by that which has been done before. It is so much tremendous justification for war, for holding back, for doing to others that is the opposite of the forgiving, the loving, the caring. Thus, there will be punishment, there will be hardship and those who’ll be saying that it is justified due to the damage of what was done in the balance that must be struck, etc. etc. all the way down until the very personal.
The way in which you find yourself karmically thrust into similar situations over and over. Most of the questions today have not specifically dealt with karma, and in many ways they have not specifically dealt with love but as important facets of universal law these must be considered when looking for the other sub themes of these many questions, that is the big picture. What are you going to do with your life? Not just in this lifetime, in the next intermissive period and the next lifetime and their relationship to what you are going to teach your children and what you are going to do to change things on your planet.
In this, the urging becomes very clear from the guides and helpers about using love to dissolve karma. That balancing karma simply by doing the best you can to help those who you have wronged, or various countries, to balance out what they have done wrong will be much too slow. It will take too many lifetimes and the ultimate changes that would be necessary for your survival will never get in action in time for that. Certainly, it is an important lesson and the understanding of the balancing of karma certainly teaches you a lot where you have been in every situation; where you have encountered victim and also a perpetrator and in every situation in which you have been perpetrator, also a victim and so on.
But, when it comes down to something truly practical it must be that which is now ended as soon as possible. For this, the opportunities to share spiritual wisdom or understanding about this in a personal way for you through your dreams, through things that seem to light your heart up with awakening and love and energies that seem positive and beautiful over and over will draw you to focus on this. At first, you will simply see it as an opportunity for forgiveness, as an opportunity to do more good in the world, as an opportunity to help others.
But then you'll begin to notice that that feel good feeling within you has associated with it a whispered question from your guides and helpers. It can take many forms. It can be along the line of, ”can you do more in that regard? Wouldn't it feel good to have that a little more?" Is the nature of your willingness to help others, is it purely karmic balancing or isn't there something intrinsic about that sense of sharing, of service, of love, of caring for others?
For many individuals this is going to be new. They're going to struggle with this but for many others it is simply crystallizing that which has already been present. Now, in a very practical way therefore, the requirement shows up on the guides and helpers on our energy, on all of the beings that share this planet with you, to evoke within you a strength of love which has the capacity to dissolve karma. This means not only the focus of that love that is in the vector function of vector love, the energetic of the direction, where it is going to go, but also its intensity; how strong it is and how you are to feel that within your own being and see that ultimately it is not local. It is not contained within you it is that perhaps birthed or sparked but it goes beyond your own level of being.
You cannot necessarily understand this with your mind. There is a part of your heart that understands it. Many times mental illness of its variations as it arises because of an imbalance in that energy. Most specifically that, that love has somehow been squashed, it is present and it has not been acknowledged. It is one that is asking for greater care or greater compassion or greater connection and is not being allowed. Indeed then, so many successful programs to help people with mental illness have been those which are based on greater love, greater connection to the community, a willingness to listen powerfully and deeply to what others have to say. In many cases an opportunity to be physical with those energies in ways of work or helping others.
December 21, 2014
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So, in a way the pressing issue is about asking the right questions and very much so with relationship to making love practical. The guides and helpers have a nearly singular focus about this. Because they recognize that the choice towards love must always be that which is up to you. It cannot be that which one is forced into that one way or the other because that's only going to generate more karma.
At the same time it can be asked,” What more than anything else retards your progress that the guides and helpers can influence? What aspects of consciousness can be that which is standing in your way? " Over and over what you see on that is the influence of cause and effect. The ripple effect that is set into motion by that which has been done before. It is so much tremendous justification for war, for holding back, for doing to others that is the opposite of the forgiving, the loving, the caring. Thus, there will be punishment, there will be hardship and those who’ll be saying that it is justified due to the damage of what was done in the balance that must be struck, etc. etc. all the way down until the very personal.
The way in which you find yourself karmically thrust into similar situations over and over. Most of the questions today have not specifically dealt with karma, and in many ways they have not specifically dealt with love but as important facets of universal law these must be considered when looking for the other sub themes of these many questions, that is the big picture. What are you going to do with your life? Not just in this lifetime, in the next intermissive period and the next lifetime and their relationship to what you are going to teach your children and what you are going to do to change things on your planet.
In this, the urging becomes very clear from the guides and helpers about using love to dissolve karma. That balancing karma simply by doing the best you can to help those who you have wronged, or various countries, to balance out what they have done wrong will be much too slow. It will take too many lifetimes and the ultimate changes that would be necessary for your survival will never get in action in time for that. Certainly, it is an important lesson and the understanding of the balancing of karma certainly teaches you a lot where you have been in every situation; where you have encountered victim and also a perpetrator and in every situation in which you have been perpetrator, also a victim and so on.
But, when it comes down to something truly practical it must be that which is now ended as soon as possible. For this, the opportunities to share spiritual wisdom or understanding about this in a personal way for you through your dreams, through things that seem to light your heart up with awakening and love and energies that seem positive and beautiful over and over will draw you to focus on this. At first, you will simply see it as an opportunity for forgiveness, as an opportunity to do more good in the world, as an opportunity to help others.
But then you'll begin to notice that that feel good feeling within you has associated with it a whispered question from your guides and helpers. It can take many forms. It can be along the line of, ”can you do more in that regard? Wouldn't it feel good to have that a little more?" Is the nature of your willingness to help others, is it purely karmic balancing or isn't there something intrinsic about that sense of sharing, of service, of love, of caring for others?
For many individuals this is going to be new. They're going to struggle with this but for many others it is simply crystallizing that which has already been present. Now, in a very practical way therefore, the requirement shows up on the guides and helpers on our energy, on all of the beings that share this planet with you, to evoke within you a strength of love which has the capacity to dissolve karma. This means not only the focus of that love that is in the vector function of vector love, the energetic of the direction, where it is going to go, but also its intensity; how strong it is and how you are to feel that within your own being and see that ultimately it is not local. It is not contained within you it is that perhaps birthed or sparked but it goes beyond your own level of being.
You cannot necessarily understand this with your mind. There is a part of your heart that understands it. Many times mental illness of its variations as it arises because of an imbalance in that energy. Most specifically that, that love has somehow been squashed, it is present and it has not been acknowledged. It is one that is asking for greater care or greater compassion or greater connection and is not being allowed. Indeed then, so many successful programs to help people with mental illness have been those which are based on greater love, greater connection to the community, a willingness to listen powerfully and deeply to what others have to say. In many cases an opportunity to be physical with those energies in ways of work or helping others.
December 21, 2014
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Tuesday, December 8, 2015
Karma of Syria
Hilarion: There was a question about Syria which seems particularly apropos here. One of the aspects driving the conflict there is purely karmic. Over a period of time there are many on your planet who have engaged in warfare, most of them have recognized the idiocy of this, the foolishness that has drawn them into such conflicts. But, many who go through this are stuck in it, lifetime after lifetime engaging as soldiers on one side and then the other.
So, you have many of those who are left in this karmically who do not recognize the importance of love in shifting this, who are burning off the karma directly associated with being dominant, being the ones in charge, being the dictators. Not because of anything intrinsic in that simply the awareness that most, such in the position of perpetrator, they are the last ones to realize what the problem was. Usually, as you go back and forth through various aspects you have a little more consciousness, a little more awareness because you have more fear as a victim. As a perpetrator, because you then have more ego you therefore have less awareness, less consciousness and as a result tend to replay that out, perhaps as the last time through in such a long time sequence.
What do you do with such people? The ones who were the dominators? The perpetrators? In the last great war? Where do you put them on this planet to work out that karma? You make them the rebels in various conflicts in the Middle East, you bring them into consciousness as position as victim, but you have to find a country to do this and indeed the guides and helpers have reduced this little by little.
This is the real key you see and a deeper understanding of what is going on in all of these wars that as the victims, there is now a greater collective conscious awareness of how the world sees you then there has ever been before. It is through the media, it is through people's actions. But, you see yourself as a result. You have a higher point of view about it and you ask the question: does this have to be? Do I have to fight? Is this the only choice I have?
This is why of course you have refugees, people leaving Syria and finding other places to live and so on and they find that actually pretty easy and so what you're left with is the hard-core people who really have to fight this out. This is true indeed in all of these countries where you find these powerful wars continuing. But, as this is better understood by the collective consciousness, by millions of people around the world naturally then what is beamed, what is shared, what is experienced you go through your own energy on it, your own karma; what you've learned and then you come to love. You simply know that there is love available to both the victim and the perpetrator and that there are other possibilities.
Hence, you see movies that project this energy. For instance, the many that focus on various ways in which people can avoid war by the various aspects in which nuclear weapons are utilized as a pawn in the movie, only at the last second to be put aside or the gathering of force against an alien invasion etc. The involvement of violence in these movies is disturbing to many who do not understand it but it sells tickets and the reason for this is very simple: because somewhere deep in you this is ready to be cleared, to be purged, to be that which can be shifted. That energy which you are now ready to say through whatever means, in particular we are suggesting karma; but it could be the means which brought you to it. I will use love, I will choose a different path, I will understand what these people go through and I will never do this again. My soul will make a choice to something in which I will not be violent.
Now, this is very difficult of course, if you have already made that choice to see this again and again. But, it is driving ticket sales because this is coming up now in people's consciousness and the next phase of this is very simple. It is asking about it. Why do I have this? For instance, moving to the aspect of pure entertainment to that of a little bit of clarification, a little bit of questioning, so when you meet others who are entranced by such films, who awaken to these aspects of consciousness, who want to understand the violence, who buy the tickets, find a place in you that can ask about this.
For instance, who or what is experiencing this violence? Who or what is experiencing this here right now, whatever it is? In the various ways in which you can understand this you are now being given an open door. The real difficulty with making movies, television shows and many different aspects of this that can be shown as popular media in various ways that can be less violent, bringing greater aspects of consciousness, greater awareness and so on is that they don't sell very well.
But, those who produce movies base this on the history and things are changing rapidly. And in only a short time, perhaps only a year or two from now more films, more opportunities for art, to bring these aspects in of higher consciousness will sell more and that of course is going to be proven by the lower investment aspects of this, those of television shows. Witness for instance, the acceptance and interest in the television show, Sutherland's, "Touch."
As people are able to shift their consciousness, this shifts the planet and that was the other aspect we wanted to mention with regards to the way in which this aetheric body is shifting for each of you individually, so it is also for earth. The primary energy we view as being responsible for the changes that are likely to be seen around December 21, 2012 are due to this factor. These energies, not that of a collective consciousness of alien beings coming here to lift off, a cataclysmic earth change, a great shift through the galactic, there are all kinds of reasons why all of these energies shift but it is more personal. It is simply the awareness that this energy is yours, that you are here, you have chosen Earth and Earth has chosen you.
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So, you have many of those who are left in this karmically who do not recognize the importance of love in shifting this, who are burning off the karma directly associated with being dominant, being the ones in charge, being the dictators. Not because of anything intrinsic in that simply the awareness that most, such in the position of perpetrator, they are the last ones to realize what the problem was. Usually, as you go back and forth through various aspects you have a little more consciousness, a little more awareness because you have more fear as a victim. As a perpetrator, because you then have more ego you therefore have less awareness, less consciousness and as a result tend to replay that out, perhaps as the last time through in such a long time sequence.
What do you do with such people? The ones who were the dominators? The perpetrators? In the last great war? Where do you put them on this planet to work out that karma? You make them the rebels in various conflicts in the Middle East, you bring them into consciousness as position as victim, but you have to find a country to do this and indeed the guides and helpers have reduced this little by little.
This is the real key you see and a deeper understanding of what is going on in all of these wars that as the victims, there is now a greater collective conscious awareness of how the world sees you then there has ever been before. It is through the media, it is through people's actions. But, you see yourself as a result. You have a higher point of view about it and you ask the question: does this have to be? Do I have to fight? Is this the only choice I have?
This is why of course you have refugees, people leaving Syria and finding other places to live and so on and they find that actually pretty easy and so what you're left with is the hard-core people who really have to fight this out. This is true indeed in all of these countries where you find these powerful wars continuing. But, as this is better understood by the collective consciousness, by millions of people around the world naturally then what is beamed, what is shared, what is experienced you go through your own energy on it, your own karma; what you've learned and then you come to love. You simply know that there is love available to both the victim and the perpetrator and that there are other possibilities.
Hence, you see movies that project this energy. For instance, the many that focus on various ways in which people can avoid war by the various aspects in which nuclear weapons are utilized as a pawn in the movie, only at the last second to be put aside or the gathering of force against an alien invasion etc. The involvement of violence in these movies is disturbing to many who do not understand it but it sells tickets and the reason for this is very simple: because somewhere deep in you this is ready to be cleared, to be purged, to be that which can be shifted. That energy which you are now ready to say through whatever means, in particular we are suggesting karma; but it could be the means which brought you to it. I will use love, I will choose a different path, I will understand what these people go through and I will never do this again. My soul will make a choice to something in which I will not be violent.
Now, this is very difficult of course, if you have already made that choice to see this again and again. But, it is driving ticket sales because this is coming up now in people's consciousness and the next phase of this is very simple. It is asking about it. Why do I have this? For instance, moving to the aspect of pure entertainment to that of a little bit of clarification, a little bit of questioning, so when you meet others who are entranced by such films, who awaken to these aspects of consciousness, who want to understand the violence, who buy the tickets, find a place in you that can ask about this.
For instance, who or what is experiencing this violence? Who or what is experiencing this here right now, whatever it is? In the various ways in which you can understand this you are now being given an open door. The real difficulty with making movies, television shows and many different aspects of this that can be shown as popular media in various ways that can be less violent, bringing greater aspects of consciousness, greater awareness and so on is that they don't sell very well.
But, those who produce movies base this on the history and things are changing rapidly. And in only a short time, perhaps only a year or two from now more films, more opportunities for art, to bring these aspects in of higher consciousness will sell more and that of course is going to be proven by the lower investment aspects of this, those of television shows. Witness for instance, the acceptance and interest in the television show, Sutherland's, "Touch."
As people are able to shift their consciousness, this shifts the planet and that was the other aspect we wanted to mention with regards to the way in which this aetheric body is shifting for each of you individually, so it is also for earth. The primary energy we view as being responsible for the changes that are likely to be seen around December 21, 2012 are due to this factor. These energies, not that of a collective consciousness of alien beings coming here to lift off, a cataclysmic earth change, a great shift through the galactic, there are all kinds of reasons why all of these energies shift but it is more personal. It is simply the awareness that this energy is yours, that you are here, you have chosen Earth and Earth has chosen you.
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