Lori: I really want to ask about Osho. I loooveee....loove Osho ever since I saw this video. He is so mischievous and irreverent and he peels away social conditioning like a sunburn. Did I know Osho in a past life?
Hilarion: Yes. You had many opportunities as have many. This individual has incarnated many times on earth as a leader, as working with all kinds of different religious movements, learning all kinds of fascinating things about humans, attempting to bring this into people's consciousness and so on.
The place where you had some deeper acquaintance was in a group that was formed to guide and assist those in incarnation studying and working with some of the concepts that eventually became known as “Gurdjieff.” The entire Sufi lineage, the Gurdjieff awareness and other things played an important role in shaping the ideas that Osho eventually brought into form along with many others. Osho’s mastery was of synthesis; drawing so many different areas together.
Most of the meetings of any significance for you with this consciousness or others associated with him were out of body, either as a projection in a dream or much more commonly in various intermissive periods.(The time between lifetimes) After all, when you get to the other side and you start to take classes or learn from other people you eventually start to ask questions such as, “Who is good around here? Who really has something to teach? What classes do you recommend? “And so on. So, you would eventually then study with these individuals and others who have a lot to share and a lot of perspective.
For you in particular, Osho was very good at posing a question that was impossible to answer. You knew this beforehand and still would allow this as if then to drift into a place of consciousness that was different from any other state you had when you would contemplate that question. Others would join you in this and in some cases thousands as he was practicing for his incarnation as the being known as "Rajneesh."
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But, in all of these there were all kinds of things that were very non-practical, very difficult for you to see how this could come into form in the physical world. Aspects that would eventually relate to a sense of freedom, a different relationship to sexuality, a completely different understanding of the energy at its purest level of man and woman. These were powerful and important ideas that Osho never was able to bring fully into form when he was incarnated.
As a result, at some point in the future this sequence will probably be restarted. He may incarnate to help others, acting perhaps as a guide or will choose not to incarnate and work with several energies. There are many different possibilities here, but clearly humanity has some important lessons to learn in this arena.
But, if you trace some of this at its purist energy there are some aspects of it that do clearly relate to Gurdjieff and all of the thinking and ideas that he was able to present to others.
In particular, the very idea of the self and in this some early experimentation when Osho was young did not lead to the results he was interested in but definitely were very helpful to a new perspective. This is where you eliminate the verb “to be,” in all of your speaking and all of your thinking and all of the ways you might use it.
This of course, can be with all of the different conjugations so you have “is,” and “was,” as well as “to be.” This is a fascinating exercise Gurdjieff would often engage his students and others to engage and look into and that which many began to recognize as a very powerful way of getting at the self and understanding this nature.
What Osho of course recognized was difficult about this is that it would separate one and it would at times create some mental dysfunction and has a tendency towards pushing someone more into the head than the body. The body was so important for places of learning and awareness and consciousness. Yet, it is a fascinating exercise and where you may even recognize some oneness or connection to Osho as well.
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